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Title: Mach 3 Turn OD sphere wizard
Post by: JohnHaine on July 12, 2015, 07:55:32 AM
I'm trying to turn a hemisphere on the end of a bar, the same diameter as the bar.  When I try to use the wizard, when I click the post code button Mach 3 crashes and can't be re-launched without re-starting the PC.  Is this a known bug please?  I would say which version I'm using but to do that I'd need to restart the PC!

Is there another sphere wizard anyone can recommend?
Title: Re: Mach 3 Turn OD sphere wizard
Post by: JohnHaine on July 12, 2015, 08:52:58 AM
I've now checked the version number and it's Version R3.043.022
Title: Re: Mach 3 Turn OD sphere wizard
Post by: JohnHaine on July 12, 2015, 12:00:25 PM
Curiouser and curiouser!  If I run the wizard on a demo copy of Mach 3 on my laptop and save the code to a usb stick and load it from there into the workshop computer, when I load the file into Mach it crashes.  Another interesting thing is that once Mach has crashed the PC will not close down properly from the start menu, I have to do a hard turn-off.
Title: Re: Mach 3 Turn OD sphere wizard
Post by: RICH on July 12, 2015, 04:05:12 PM
From where and what wizard are you using?
The Turning / Lathe Turning Wizards by Brian / Kiran?
OD Arc?

RICH
Title: Mach 3 Turn OD sphere wizard
Post by: JohnHaine on July 12, 2015, 04:14:06 PM
Hi Rich, yes, those exactly.

Thanks, John


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Title: Re: Mach 3 Turn OD sphere wizard
Post by: RICH on July 12, 2015, 04:17:41 PM
I just tried that wizard and it posted code just fine.
What is running on the workshop pc besides Mach3?

RICH
Title: Re: Mach 3 Turn OD sphere wizard
Post by: Hood on July 12, 2015, 04:52:11 PM
Sounds like you may be using an external controller and the code is making it hang for some reason.
Hood
Title: Mach 3 Turn OD sphere wizard
Post by: JohnHaine on July 13, 2015, 04:16:48 PM
Nope, Mach 3 on an XP PC through the parallel port.  Nothing running other than M3.  Also disconnected from the Internet and disabled Norton.  One thing I noticed is that single G03 statements run fine, but both with this wizard and the od fillet wizard which will generate a hemisphere with the right parameters, they crash when there are a lot of G03s.  Also just once I've got an error message from Windows when trying to shut down to say that shutdown failed because the M3 driver was still running, though the GUI bit had crashed and couldn't be restarted.  I will try to see what happens if I reduce the number of G03s by making the cuts deeper.  This only happens on my w/s Dell Optiplex, not on my Win7 laptop, but the latter runs only in demo mode of course.


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Title: Re: Mach 3 Turn OD sphere wizard
Post by: Overloaded on July 13, 2015, 04:30:33 PM
  Another interesting thing is that once Mach has crashed the PC will not close down properly from the start menu, I have to do a hard turn-off.

I think I used to kill it with the Device Manager instead of a shut down.
Haven't had that issue for a loooooong time though and don't recall what  caused it.
That wizard has always worked well for me, used it multiple times.
Russ
Title: Re: Mach 3 Turn OD sphere wizard
Post by: RICH on July 13, 2015, 09:45:40 PM
Post your code for the one that causes the crash.
What version of Mach are you using?
Are you using the generic lathe screen set.

Don't know what is the problem is, but, can try it using my OptiPlex and another computer to see if it happens here.
Like Russ never had an issue with those wizards.

RICH
Title: Re: Mach 3 Turn OD sphere wizard
Post by: Hood on July 14, 2015, 03:11:30 AM
Post your xml as well just in case there is something in it.
Hood
Title: Mach 3 Turn OD sphere wizard
Post by: JohnHaine on July 14, 2015, 04:48:58 AM
Version is in post 2.  Yes using generic screen set.


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Title: Mach 3 Turn OD sphere wizard
Post by: JohnHaine on July 14, 2015, 04:08:25 PM
Well I've taken the radical step of uninstalling and reinstalling, but having done that I should ask what the best version is for turning please?  Currently have 3.043.022

Now I'll have to remember how I configured the system for two different machine tools....


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Title: Re: Mach 3 Turn OD sphere wizard
Post by: DICKEYBIRD on July 15, 2015, 08:27:30 AM
I think 062 is the most commonly used version now for turn.  I've been using 057 for a long time on my lathe.  I keep saying I'll go to 062 but I'm nervous about changing.  Me, superstitious? Nah. ::)
Title: Re: Mach 3 Turn OD sphere wizard
Post by: JohnHaine on July 15, 2015, 08:42:05 AM
OK, thanks Dickeybird.  I'll download '062 and give it a whirl.

Presumably '066 is the latest for Mill, can I have two versions on my computer at the same time please?  Or doesn't that work?
Title: Re: Mach 3 Turn OD sphere wizard
Post by: RICH on July 15, 2015, 09:43:42 AM
Current changes from 057  and some affect lathe.

Take your pick for what you want to use. At least use something greater than say ...038

RICH

1/24/12
3.043.057
-- Softlimtis for turn fixed
-- Pause in can cyles and cutter comp  fixed
-- M10 M11 and ExPy commands fixed
-- Looking at A Axis moves but I was not able to make it for this Rev...


1/31/12
3.043.058
-- Added the ability to run Gcode while in Pause (feedhold) Also allows Inc joging in feed hold
-- Fixed doing a toolchange from MDI and locking the machine in a running Gcode state. (would not allow jogging after a toolchang in MDI)

3/30/12
3.043.060
-- Lathe - Ignore tool change not working (Fixed and tested)
-- Lathe - G53 move in Dia mode (fixed and tested)
-- Lathe - Tool Tip Rad taken out of the axis display (needed to allow zeroing and so on)
-- Lathe - Solid Object  (worked on it a bit but needs far more work and will take days, added to the TODO list)
-- Sleep function in the script editor was killing the update of
the software. I needed to remove the stopping of jog if there was a loss of focus. The trouble is that if a display thread is sleeping and you
check to see what it's name is it will not return untill it is done sleeping. So that feature has been removed... (fixed and tested)

4/3/12
3.043.062
-- Lathe - Program extents worked on. The fixture offset was getting added in
-- Lathe - worked some more on the Dia vs Rad. There was a problem with setting an axis to a position
-- Lathe - Fixed the vars that get sent to the m1083 macro. The tTaper() was not getting set

Title: Re: Mach 3 Turn OD sphere wizard
Post by: JohnHaine on July 15, 2015, 09:49:48 AM
Thanks Rich, I'll go for 062 then.
Title: Re: Mach 3 Turn OD sphere wizard
Post by: JohnHaine on July 15, 2015, 04:35:31 PM
OK, have installed '062, worked out how to restore the right xml, and tested the wizards out.  Work exactly as expected, no crashes.  Now I just need to get my xbox controller working again and the mill profile.

Many thanks for all the help!  As always, this forum gets me to a fix quickly.
Title: Re: Mach 3 Turn OD sphere wizard
Post by: DICKEYBIRD on July 15, 2015, 05:33:29 PM
OK, have installed '062, worked out how to restore the right xml, and tested the wizards out.  Work exactly as expected, no crashes.
Thanks John, that's good to know.  I'm waiting for the sun, moon & planets to align themselves properly & when they do, 062 will be installed on the ORAC.  Now where did I put that Voodoo doll...
Title: Re: Mach 3 Turn OD sphere wizard
Post by: JohnHaine on July 19, 2015, 10:01:20 AM
Mission accomplished.  I discovered how easy it is to reinstall the Xbox plugin, and the I used the OD Fillet wizard to turn a hemishere on the end of my bar by settingh the radius equal to the bar radius and the length equal to the radius.  Simples!