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Mach Discussion => Mach SDK plugin questions and answers. => Topic started by: Rick1231123 on January 04, 2007, 09:56:39 AM
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I just download the shuttle plug-in and cannot get my shuttle xpress working. Is there any instructions available for reading? Can anyone give me a hand? Thank you.
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If you installed the software for the shuttle you will need to take it out :) You need NO software! :)
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Hi,
Art has posted a tutorial that I wrote on how to hook up the Shuttle plugins. Check the Plugin Download section on the main Artsoft page.
Lee
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can someoe that owns a shuttle pro tell me how they like or dislike the product thinking about buying a pendant
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Hi woffler,
I have the Shuttle Pro and it works fine. It has an inner and outer wheel that allows you to jog continuously or incrementaly. It only controls 1 axis. You can specify the axis. You can assign the buttons to perform a variety of operations.
I found the Shuttle Pro to be too limiting. I wanted to be able to control the X, Y and Z axis all from the same device. So, I wrote a plugin to use the XBox360 controller. It allows me to use the X, Y, Z and A axis for continuous or incremental. I can specify which axis I want to control.
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I jog continuously or incrementally X, Y and Z axis with my Shuttle Pro. Just one device.
I thought everybody did. :o
Greg
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Hi,
I probably should have stated myself more clearly. You can certainly jog any axis by programming a button to be "Select X axis" , another button to be "Select Y axis" etc. When you push the button it sets the inner and outer wheel to the desired axis.
My main purpose with my plugin was to be able to control the different axis without having to push the various buttons all the time and also to be able to move diagonally with the thumbsticks.
You may also want to check out the "How To Install" document that I wrote. It is on the plugins page near the Shuttle Pro plugin download. If you decide to get one, there are a couple on EBay now.
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Ahh Yes....Multi axis moves would be nice. :)
Greg
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I think I have exhaustively read every post on the shuttle and I still cannot get mine to work.
I have my buttons responding but cannot get the wheels to do anything.
Also when I toggle shuttle off (from the tab pop out) My axis jumps a few 10 thousands.
Also by toggling shuttle off I cannot use my keys or mouse unless I close and re-open by the tab key.
I keep reading set to inc. and not cont. but I do not see anywhere to select Inc. I can select values of Increment, but the Jog Mode says Cont. or Step, I'm assuming the step is the Inc. being refered to? However when I select shuttle mode it jumps to MPG anyway??
Extremely confused and requesting help...
BTW, I did test the Shuttle with it's software and removed the contour program before introducing it to MACH3, I get prompts saying it's recognized, and text responses for the buttons, just no movement....
Plugin and Mach3 are both most recent versions I could find...
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You may have already done this.
Delete the plugin and redownload and reinstall.
Greg
EDIT: I read your post a little more carefully. :)
The centre wheel defaults to incremental. This was changed to be this way after a few of us users requested it.
If you want to use centre wheel as continuous the you need to assign one of the buttons to select continuous/incremental.
My self I can't see the need as the outer wheel already does this.
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Installed my shuttle pro today and I'm a bit disappointed as when I set the buttons for the x, y, and z axis, they sometimes "stick" and when I let off the button, it stills goes for a bit but not all the time. In a other words, if I want the table to move just a bit, I push down on the button and let off the button and it will stop but the next time I do it, it will keep going when I let off then stop itself after it travels a bit. It's very inconsistant as well.
Is anyone else experiencing this? It's very un-nerving to say the least as I'd like the table to stop immediately-
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That should not be.. What do you have for a machine???
Do you have any other hardware / softwarethat could be slowing the machine down? Also do not install the drivers.
Thanks
Brian
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Hi Brian, no sir, I have optimised my machine (microproto dsls 3000) and with a gamepad it works perfectly using keygrabber but thought I'd like the functionality using the Pro. Also, I followed the instuctions to the "T" and did not install the drivers.
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This weekend I will see if I can get some time to un my router and test the shuttle.. You are the econd one that has reported this but I have not seen it >:( I will be testing with Rev 3.038 and I will tell you if I find anything.
Thanks
Brian
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Hey Brian,
I recently had to re-config my home switches (i.e. run them in series) to make room for an additional input for my touch probe.
The REF ALL button on the 1024 screenset works perfect (Homes each Axis Individually). The REF ALL script associated with the Shuttle Plugin refs ALL axis simulataneously. Is this an easy thing to fix (make the Shuttle Script work the same as the Screenset script). Is it something I could figure out? Any pointers?
Thanks,
Sid
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Bump
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You will need to make a Macro and set that up in the shuttle pro.. that is about the only way I can see to make that work..
Thanks
Brian
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Thank You!
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I have a contour shuttle express and run Mach 3 on a DIY router. The shulle express is working but the outer ring is spotty. I can turn the ring a little bit and the axis will move. If I turn it a little more the axis stops. Turn it a little more and the axis moves a little faster. This happen all the way to the outer rings travel limits. I have a tormach mill with the tormach shuttle running tormachs version of mach3 and it works perfectly. I can switch shuttles between the router and the mill and the tormach shuttle acts the same way on the router and the contour shuttle works perfect on the mill. Anyone have any ideas. Everything else seems to work fine except for the outer ring. Thanks in advance.
Barry
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Barry, I have noticed similar 'weirdness' as of late. I think I may have figured it out but, rather than give you bad advice- could you possibly post you .xml file (you'll need to rename it something like barry.xml to be able to upload to the forum) for the machine you are having the problem with.
I'd like to have a look at it to confirm my theory.
Thanks,
Sid
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Sid, attached is my xml file. Thanks
Barry
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Hey Barry,
Well, I can't really answer the original question yet because it seems this XML file is either- incomplete somehow, not the mach3mill.xml file or perhaps it is from a very old version. Can you verify that this is infact your Mach3mill.xml file anf tell me what version of Mach you are running?
Thanks,
Sid
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Sid, sorry about that. I am not sure what that XML file is for. It may be one for another MPG I was trying. See if this one looks right. I am running the latest version on Mach 3.
Barry
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Hey Barry,
The last file was the correct one. It doesn't seem like we have the same problem. However, I did notice that the Shuttle Plugin version you are currently runing is an older version (2.1). It has since been updated. Why don't you try re-downloading the new version (2.6) and install that. I think that should help you out. If not, give us another shout!
HTH,
Sid
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Installed my shuttle pro today and I'm a bit disappointed as when I set the buttons for the x, y, and z axis, they sometimes "stick" and when I let off the button, it stills goes for a bit but not all the time. In a other words, if I want the table to move just a bit, I push down on the button and let off the button and it will stop but the next time I do it, it will keep going when I let off then stop itself after it travels a bit. It's very inconsistant as well.
Is anyone else experiencing this? It's very un-nerving to say the least as I'd like the table to stop immediately-
This weekend I will see if I can get some time to un my router and test the shuttle.. You are the econd one that has reported this but I have not seen it >:( I will be testing with Rev 3.038 and I will tell you if I find anything.
Thanks
Brian
Brian, any chance you had a look at this? I went out and bought a brand new Shuttle Pro 2 and it's doing the exact same thing as mentioned above.
Thanks for your time-
Dave
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I have tested the one that I have here and I am not seeing the problem
Thanks
Brian
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Ok, thanks for checking for me-
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I had similar problems and looked at my .xml file and found something weird. I have downloaded various versions of the plugin throughout it's development and noticed that eventhough I can only access one (the most current version) throught the config plugins screen- there are many listed in the .xml as being enabled. I thought maybe this is confusing things so I manaully edited my .xml to disable the older versions and now everything seems Okee Dokee. It's woth a shot?
HTH,
Sid
P.S. Brian- is it possible to UNINSTALL a plugin?
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I can't uninstall a Plugin :( But if you tell me the setting I can fix that :)
Thanks
Brian
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Sid, thanks for posting, may ask how exactly you edited yours to fix the problem? Just deleteing lines of the xml file? Obviously I have no clue about xml files so please bear with me- :)
Dave
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Thanks but, No worries! I guess that's why you call them plug-INS.
:P
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Sid, thanks for posting, may ask how exactly you edited yours to fix the problem? Just deleteing lines of the xml file? Obviously I have no clue about xml files so please bear with me- :)
Dave
I was too chicken to go straight for the line delete thing. If you look at the lines of the xml I posted you see that there is either a 0 or a 1 in btewwn brackets (i.e >1<). I assumed that a 1 meant enabled and a 0 meant Disabled. So, I just opened up the XML using a text editor, changed the 1 to a 0 saved the file and launched Mach. Just in case, I would make a copy of your .xml file and put it in a safe place in case you need to revert.
Hopefully that'll do. Let us know how it pans out!
Good Luck,
Sid
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Thanks very much, Sid, I will try this and definitely let you all know if it works. I won't be able to try this until later tomorrow or saturday, but I will report back.
Thanks again! 8)
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well, I couldn't wait and had to see if this worked and unfortunately I don't have more than one line for the shuttle. :(
Thanks anyway, I'll keep fooling around with it...
Dave
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Hello,
I am a newbie forum member and CNC user attempting to set up the Mach3 software prior to receiving my router.
I have just installed the Contour Shuttle Express. Note that I am installing this device without my CNC router as it does not arrive until next week.
I have removed the Contour software and installed the ShuttlePro Plugin. I am following the instructions found here (http://www.machsupport.com/plugins/ShuttleProInstallation.pdf).
After downloading the ShuttlePro plugin, renaming the plugin .m3p file to .dll (the M3plug.exe did not work), and saving it in Mach3, I am attempting to configure the device. Windows Device Manager sees the device and indicates it is working properly. In Mach3, when I select the config plugin section the device is shown with a green check. When I select Config, the resulting window shows the ContourPro, but I have selected Express in the lower right hand area of the window.
Now I have to make some assumptions as the Express model is not shown in the window. I have left the configuration as shown for the Pro model (it is not clear how those config's relate to the Express), selected ok, and am not seeing any indication in the Mach3 screen that any activity occurs when I use any button to select an axis and rotate the center wheel.
Questions: Shouldn't I see a result in the Mach3 axis areas when I use the device even without my router installed? If not, how can I tell if I have configured the device correctly or if it is even working?
Thank you for your time and attention,
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AHA,
After lots of fiddling I got the thing to work.
1. When I start Mach3, a program evidently is running. the Stop All button must be pressed to allow the Shuttle to work. I am now deciphering which buttons are the active Shuttle Express buttons on the Shuttle Pro diagram in the Config window.
2. On other posts, mention is made of the danger in using the 'Zero All' function for a button assignment. Why is that not recommended?
3. Aside from axis selection, what are the recommended settings for the other two buttons on the Express?
Thanks again,