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Mach Discussion => General Mach Discussion => Topic started by: themule on February 25, 2011, 06:32:51 PM
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Hello All - I am new to this forum and new to CNC. I am planning to buy an ex-school Denford Micromill (circa 2002) with no control software. I would love to get an idea of how hard it would be for a newbie to convert to run with Mach3 and what's involved (and cost). I have a pretty well equiped workshop, a workshop PC (ok spec, Windows XP, no serial port). I am a software engineer by trade but don't have any electronics knowhow.
My research so far leads me to guess that i will need to replace the control boards for the existing 3 axis stepper motors and the spindle but I am not sure of this plus purchase Mach3.
I would really appreciate some advice.
Thanks very much ! Themule
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I imagine the mill has steppers so the easiest way would likely be to replace the drives but keep the steppers if they are ok. Have a look at the Gecko G540, it might be a cost effective drive setup for you and Geckos make, in my opinion, excellent stepper drives.
Spindle I am not sure of, just depends what it is, if it just needs a 0 to 10v input then possibly the G540's spindle output would work.
Hood
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Themule,
I don't know if this helps but I converted a little Boxford mill to Mach3 operation a couple of years back and the details are here http://www.cooperman.talktalk.net/files/14.htm (I think my additional parts cost was only around 150 GBP)
This may give you some idea of what would be involved if you tackle the Denford.
Tweakie.
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there is another option, and that's to just add a breakout board and a analogue spindle board (if not already in the breakout) and keep the Denford drives, steppers and power supply which probably work well.
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This thread is probably relevant http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,9947.0.html
Tweakie.
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Ok, with the most basic conversion you're looking at getting it going for about £50, or with a reasonable opto isolated breakout board you'll be looking at about £80 ish. The Denford control board can be removed easily and you then have a 3 axis drive board that will run directly of a breakout board. It's basically as easy as that, pm me if you require a guide through.
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Thanks for all the quick responses and advice - much appreciated. Angel Tech - I will take you up on your offer when i start the project please. What sort of electronics skills would be needed with the plan of adding a breakout board to the existing drivers and PSU - it doesn't sound too hard.
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it's pretty easy even with limited electronic experience.
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Evening - newbie to this forum. Just acquired a Denford Microrouter compact to cut my teeth in the world of cnc. just wondering if you ever completed your conversion on this as I'm interested in doing the same.
Angel Tech - would you be able to provide some advise on component selection?
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First - do you have the Denford electronics box with the machine? If so then you could visit http://www.denfordata.com/bb/viewforum.php?f=36 which is the Denford support forum where someone may be able to help you get the original Denford software. Even if not they are very helpful with information on the older Denford machines.
If not then others here have given good advice - I acquired a Novamill which is rather bigger without electronics and bought all the drivers and a breakout board on ebay for only about £100. PSU was about £30 from another UK supplier, everything all in certainly less than £200 (but used some stuff from the spares box). Got the machine up and running quite quickly using Mach3 with a bit of help on this forum.
Also I think the micromill is based on the Sherline mechanics.
Good luck, John.
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Angel Tech - would you be able to provide some advise on component selection?
Yes just give me a ring, pm'ed the details.
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I know this is an old thread, but I have the same situation - Perfectly good Denford Micromill 2000 lacking software, wanting to run it on Mach3.
The above advice is to replace the steppers, or the main board. Why is this? Is the driver board specific to the software?
Angel Tech says I can just replace the control board, which I assume is the largest board, called "Denstep", and wire a new board to the other components. I happen to have a CNC2PC breakout board. It is a C11 Rev 5.
Will this work?
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Hi Rex, I converted my MicroMill to Mach3 with a cheap B.O.B and 3 R/C servo connectors. The Denford top board (with the little L.E.D. display) is removed & discarded. The 96 pin header on the main board is where you connect to the appropriate step, dir & gnd pins with wires from the B.O.B. Here's a link to a post over on the Denford forum that got me going. http://www.denfordata.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=2264