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Title: Mach 3 installation
Post by: zigge on December 07, 2010, 12:12:11 PM
Hi
I used my mill with a mach 2 program for a short time and now I installed the Mach 3 but I ran into some problems when installing...

First I copied all the settings from the mach2 (i think)
but now I wont get my mill to run? it seems to do the job on the screen but the mill doesnt move or turn?
I got all the limit switches runnining exept the emergency trigger? cant figure out why and if it has something to do with the machine not running...

And the mach 2 program wont run ether?

Any basic hints, any standard things that often are forgotten? Modbus settings??

I guess that its just one or two buttons to press...

Thanks
Title: Re: Mach 3 installation
Post by: Hood on December 07, 2010, 02:32:12 PM
When you say you copied the settings are you meaning you wrote the Mach2 settings down then started Mach3 and entered them?

Hood
Title: Re: Mach 3 installation
Post by: zigge on December 07, 2010, 05:44:18 PM
Yes thats What I did. But now in both programs the coordinats in the display counts when I press for ex the X key but the motors dont run?
Perhaps there is a harwere problem or can the program mess up any basic settings?
Title: Re: Mach 3 installation
Post by: Hood on December 07, 2010, 05:46:20 PM
Check you have the correct port address set.
Hood
Title: Re: Mach 3 installation
Post by: zigge on December 08, 2010, 03:52:10 AM
I am not a computer engeneer, but I now know that my Gecodrives dont get any power?
is that a setting thing in the mach program?

Does anybody know if there is any Mach users in Sweden?
Title: Re: Mach 3 installation
Post by: Hood on December 08, 2010, 04:09:21 AM
Star menu in Windows then Control Panel then System then Hardware the Device manager. In device manager look for your port and expand it then double click on your printer port then on resources  tab you will see the address (first 4 digits).
In Mach go to Config menu then Ports and Pins and enter that address for Port1 and make sure you have Port 1 enabled.
Hood
Title: Re: Mach 3 installation
Post by: zigge on December 08, 2010, 04:36:37 AM
Thanks Hood
but Since my end switches work the port should be correct...
But my E-stop dont work and that may be the reason that the Gecos dont have any power?
I dont understand why the e-stop stopped working when installing Mach 3? and very strange that my old Mach 2 dont work anymore...

Your quick reply made me chech your location, Scotland just one hour time differance...
I have friend in Scotland, Mr Spink he collects golf clubs, have you ever heard of any more stupid hobby :-)
Title: Re: Mach 3 installation
Post by: zigge on December 08, 2010, 05:13:01 AM
Now I am thinking that it is most likely that its the E-stop
Inthe Mach3 dialog it says : "Reconfiguration estop"

when I first started Mach 3 the spindle started and and only stopped when i pressed e-stop but started when i pulled out theE-stop and that should not happen, but i dont remember if I did any changes in the set up after that,but I guess if the E-stop is incorrect then thegecos wont get power...
man I am pulling my hair!!!
But I will get this baby running...
Title: Re: Mach 3 installation
Post by: Hood on December 08, 2010, 05:23:06 AM
Can you attach your xml, it sounds like you may have some duplicate pins set

Where does your friend come from? Spink is a common name in this area of Scotland.

Hod
Title: Re: Mach 3 installation
Post by: zigge on December 08, 2010, 11:27:38 AM
I will look at the xml´s tomorrow, I am not sure what they are but i will find them.
Normally when I pug in the power cable  the machine makes some small noices and you notice that it got power, and that is before you turn on the computer, but now there is no life in the machine when I plug in the power or start the computer, but I am sure it has got something to do with the E-stop
My  gecos come to life when I manually activate the soilnoid that supply them with power, and if Im right the E-stop shut down the power to the motors by "hard wire" and also by the computer...

I visited my friend when he lived around Winchester but when he moved back to Scotland we lost contact...
Dave Spink he was in the oilindustri and in my young days he was going to fix me a job in Turkmenistan...
Title: Re: Mach 3 installation
Post by: zigge on December 13, 2010, 05:00:40 AM
First of all thanks Hood!!

Now I got my system running exept the feed rate of my x,y,z axels?
when pressing arrows the table moves at the speed of aprox 9 mm/minute
i have looked at the tutural videos and everything seems OK????

Besides that everything looks good and I am looking forward to run the mach 3
Title: Re: Mach 3 installation
Post by: Hood on December 13, 2010, 05:34:04 AM
Rapid rate is set in motor tuning so if you command a G0 move via MDI it should move at what you have set. If it is faster when you do that then you need to press the TAB key and in the flyout see what your Slow  Jog % is set to. You can either set it to 100% or if you prefer to keep it slow you can still get full jog by pressing and holding the Shift then jogging via the arrows.
Hood
Title: Re: Mach 3 installation
Post by: zigge on December 13, 2010, 06:04:18 AM
I have checked that, all set to 100%
Isnt there a basic setting for speed rate, I just cant remember where I have come across this but somewhere you set the G0 speed in your settings dont you?
I have my motor settings just the same as in Mach 2, can I increese the motor settings and get faster feed rate?
Title: Re: Mach 3 installation
Post by: Hood on December 13, 2010, 06:10:47 AM
G0 is the rapid rate as set in Motor tuning, ie the Velocity. Feedrates are set from the code, for example G1X10F100 will move the X axis to 10 at a feedrate of 100.
If your G0 speed is slow then you need to set your Velocity in motor tuning faster. There is only one thing that will make G0 speeds go slower than your Velocity in motor tuning and that is if you have set the rapid override slider lower than 100%. This can also be linked to the feed override in General Config so if you have the FRO set lower than 100% it may also set the RRO lower.
Hood
Title: Re: Mach 3 installation
Post by: zigge on December 13, 2010, 07:18:55 AM
Thanks again Hood it was the motor velocity, that made it go soooooo slow
Now I think everything is working!!!!
thanks for this great forum, normally me and computers dont work but with a little help things worked out...
Title: Re: Mach 3 installation
Post by: Hood on December 13, 2010, 07:25:47 AM
Great news :)
Hood