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Mach Discussion => Mach Screens => Topic started by: hacker77 on November 30, 2010, 10:01:13 PM
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This is my first post and WOW!!! this place is great, I've been looking at it, while I build my cnc machine. Anyway my ? is when I make a sample screen set with some "dros" and some other buttons to practice using screen 4, every other screen set I've downloaded and loaded in screen 4 the numbers in the "dros" start counting up. Now when I load my sample screen they do nothing why is that? I've watched Benny"s videos lots and lots of times, but I'm missing something. Any help would be great. Thanks to all for your valuable time and energy you put in here. Richard
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I think they only count if they are "skinned". Mine don't count either.
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Hi Hacker, Its been years since I have done any screen stuff, or videos.
Since video codecs have improved so much, and file size has decreased as well as youtube improved I will make a fresh batch of tutorials.
If you can live without voice, then I can spit out some new tutes in the next few days.
Can you zip and upload a test file that you have, that isnt working?
From memory screen 4 has a bug (well many bugs) where the order of how you place the items, depends on if the DROs work properly.
It may take a day or so for me to revisit and remember the quirks of screen 4.
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I should have clarified that the DRO's will still work fine, even if they don't count.
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Yes that brings back a memory Gerry.
Can you remind me how to change the font of a DRO, there was a way but it wasnt straight 4ward from memory
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Yes that brings back a memory Gerry.
Can you remind me how to change the font of a DRO, there was a way but it wasnt straight 4ward from memory
Benny, when Mach 3 is started, click in the menu bar: "Function Cfg's"/"Fonts"/ then click the DRO button and change the font you desire that you have loaded in the Windows Font folder. After that, I always save the settings under menu item: "Config"/Save settings" and restart Mach 3 and you should be good to go.
Hope that helps,
Dave
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Ahh yes thats right. Thanks for that Dave
Youve got to wonder why Art didnt make font selection in the screen designer instead ? (Another bug for screen 4)
Incidentally, is the new screen designer any better or is it just a new layout for screen 4 ?
Does it have any new and better features?
I have downloaded it but are too lazy to try and learn it? Is it worth learning and making a tute on how to use it instead of screen 4?
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Ahh yes thats right. Thanks for that Dave
Youve got to wonder why Art didnt make font selection in the screen designer instead ? (Another bug for screen 4)
Incidentally, is the new screen designer any better or is it just a new layout for screen 4 ?
Does it have any new and better features?
I have downloaded it but are too lazy to try and learn it? Is it worth learning and making a tute on how to use it instead of screen 4?
I have to admit, I've tried playing with the new screen designer "MachScreen" and not a big fan, but honestly, I'm just not giving it a fair try as whenever I do screen changes in my screensets, I always just use screen 4 as I do not seem to have the problems that many others do. I actually really like screen 4 but would still like to try and learn Machscreen someday as I hear nothing but fantastic things about it.
Dave
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While Machscreen is arguably better, I find Screen4 to be faster. So I use Screen4. :)
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I'm working on my first screen and I've been using MachScreen, the only thing I have noticed so far is that you kind of have to figure it out by just messing around with it. Other then that I haven't noticed anything horrendous about it yet :)
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Here is something made up in a hurry. Just to practice using screen 4. I can't get the "dros" to move on screen or with my keyboard. Like I said before every other screen I load including benny's the "dros" start counting up when I load it in screen 4. Oh what is a "SKIN"? And somehow I lost the actual screen I was working on in Realdraw. Anyway another day for that. Btw could someone give a quick rundown of how benny made the button go from red to green in the 45sec LED video. I know he's explaining it ,but is that a red jpeg bitmap that he drew in realdraw and screen 4 changes it to green ? Thanks again guys for all your help. Rich
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There's a checkbox to "skin" a DRO. The skin is a semitransparent image to make the DRO look like it's under glass (or something).
Check the skinned box, then select an image, and when you close the dialog, the DRO will stat counting.
Here's more info on what's in the video.
http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,10761.0.html
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Thanks believe it or not it worked!!!!!!!!! Rich
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Hi Hacker77
on my website you can download a tutorial and a video, which gives you a rough idea how to work with MachScreen. The video is zipped and has a size of about 28MB, this may take a while to download.
The download path is:
Projects -> Mach3 Screendesigner ->Tuturial
Projects -> Mach3 Screendesigner ->Video
Klaus
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Thanks Klaus for your input.
The actual links are....
The Software http://www.kd-dietz.de/download/eng/MachScreenV1.44.5a.exe (http://www.kd-dietz.de/download/eng/MachScreenV1.44.5a.exe)
The tutorial http://www.kd-dietz.de/images/eng/machscreen/praesentation/praesentation.htm (http://www.kd-dietz.de/images/eng/machscreen/praesentation/praesentation.htm)
The Video http://www.kd-dietz.de/download/Video/MachScreen.zip (http://www.kd-dietz.de/download/Video/MachScreen.zip)
The web site http://www.kd-dietz.de (http://www.kd-dietz.de)
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Klaus,
Thanks for the video, for some reason I have a habit of making things seem a LOT harder than they really are. Your video helped a lot and I'll give this screen designer some more use for sure.
Thanks,
Dave
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Benny on one of your screen sets in the scale axis "dro" you have +1.0, how do you put that value in without all the zero's on the end? On other screen's people just left it be .WhenI type in +1.0 all the zero's come back. Any info would be great. Thanks Richard
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Change the format in the screen designer. Don't have it in front of me, but it's something like f%+0.1
In Mach Screen you can just specify the decimal places and it does the format for you.
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Gerry that works great I'm sitting here playing with MachScreen and trying to learn it. I'm liking it more and more. Thanks for all your help.
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What oem code would you have to use for a vacuum table button or a dust extractor button? Or does those have to be done with scripts?
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Depends on how you are turning them on and off and what they are connected to.
If you set them up to use the mist or flood outputs, you can use 113 or 114 to toggle them on or off with one button. If you use other outputs, you may need to use one button for on, and one for off, unless you use VB to do the toggle for you.