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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: Touch interface problem
« on: March 22, 2022, 03:09:45 PM »
Hi,
the Touch module uses g31 codes to move the probe tip to a location rather than regular g1's prior to a probe move. g31 is a safer way to move around, if the probe tip accidentally contacts
the workpiece of clamps it will stop rather than crunch the probe.

The default response of the ESS to a g31 that DOES NOT make contact is a fault which stops Mach4. You can change that behaviour on Configure/Plugins/ESSnnn/Probing tab.

Craig

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Hi,

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I guess the ground C5 and support bearings is the most cost but out of curiosity what the heck you are doing Craig and you need such a precision? Perhaps a machine shop?

No, nothing like that. I made a mini-mill (travels 180mm x 180mm x 180mm) with 20mm C5 ballscrews, 15mm linear rails on cast iron beds eight years ago. I made it mainly for making
circuit boards but wanted to be capable of milling steels as well. It was just barely capable of milling steel, despite being all cast iron and steel construction the cutting forces caused enough
flexure to interfere with cutting accuracy.

I could perhaps have modified it to overcome most if not all of its shortcomings but really wanted to build anew incorporating what I had learned. It was always my intention to get cast iron
axis beds cast for me, and that rather set the tone throughout the design and build. My previous mini-mill also cast iron axis beds, but I milled them out of large cast iron elevator weights
I bought from the scrap yard. They worked out pretty well but the cast iron of a weight is pretty poor, it had inclusions and a really hard and abrasive outer rime. I swore the next time I would do
better, and I did but the cost....oh crikey... the cost!! The castings (3 at 115kg each) cost $3500NZD, and the machining and stress relieving cost another $6000NZD.  I sort of have to consider
that I did not control the costs as I should have, and that could be considered a failure, however I've got a superb result and that's what I paid for.

Finding the ballscrews I mentioned was another important part of the project. Ground C5 ballscrews are really expensive, that I was able to find three matching ballscrews in near new condition
for 1/5-1/3 the cost of new allowed me to proceed. Because the ballscrews are all the same length the travels are cubic, that is to say 350mm x 350mm x 350mm. From the same Korean company from
whom I bought the ballscrews I also bought three matching pairs of 20mm HSR (heavy duty) linear rails by THK, they were new old stock, and was able to buy at a much better price than new.

I decided that I wanted servos for this build, so bought a 400W Delta B2 series (160,000 count per rev) AC servo. It far exceeded my expectation of performance, so I then bought three
750W B2 series servos, one with a brake for the Z axis. They have proven to be superb.....and they EAT any stepper ever made!

This is still a hobby mill, but I use it daily for work. Mainly for making circuit boards, for which its is overkill, but also for many small parts in brass, aluminum and plastics for automotive instruments,
but I now also have genuine steel and stainless capacity, which was always my intent starting eight-nine years ago.

Craig

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Hi,

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$1800NZD just for ballscrews? Most likely quite high end!

Yes they are, and they are second hand at that!

Three by 750mm long 32mm dia ground C5 double nut (BNFN) by THK with six FK25 support bearings. Would probably be worth $3000NZD
each if I were to buy new.

Craig

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Hi,

$23USD = $34.30NZD
15% GST(NZ Tax)=$5.15NZD
Shipping to NZ=$32.00NZD
TOTAL =$71.45NZD  or $62.20CAD

Given that New Zealand is 9,000-10,000 k's away...that sounds about right. Quite frankly I paid over $1800NZD just for ballscrews, a pesky $71.45NZD wouldn't slow me down.

Craig

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Hi,
the problem is that with the C11 BoB you only have five inputs, so you have to mix the microswitches and the prox sensors.
It can be done but you are making it hard for yourself.

With microswitches it was common to link them altogether in series, if any one of them went open Mach would know about it.
You can't link prox switches in series, you can link the in parallel, but its a hassle.

Simple idea, get another C10 BoB and  use a second port of the ESS, with pins 2-9 as inputs, and now you have enough inputs to have
one switch one input, which is by far and away the best and simplest of solutions. A C10 is $23.00

Trying to combine switches is the 'old parallel port mentality'....whereas you have stepped way past that into a genuine IO paradise....take advantage of it!

Craig

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Hi,
why use a C11 breakout board?. You've gone to the trouble and expense of buying an ESS that has three parallel port equivalents....only to use one of them?

A C25 is a better unit. It plugs directly on top of the ESS, no ribbon cables required and it has two ports, ie 34 inputs and outputs and its less than half the price.
It does not have relays nor does it have a PWM circuit, which you would have to add, but you'd have two ports worth of IO, not one.

With the number of inputs you'd have to spare you could have one limit/home switch per input, and then you could mix them at will.

Craig

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Mach 3 stops mid cut
« on: March 19, 2022, 05:39:19 PM »
Hi,
when I first started eight-nine years ago I used Mach3 and a parallel port, then two parallel ports. By-and-large I had good results and so I resisted the advice about
buying an expensive, or at least so it seemed, motion controller. After all what could I possibly gain over a perfectly satisfactory parallel port solution...right?
Wrong, I did buy an Ethernet SmoothStepper, mainly to be able to use Mach4, but the truth is that an external motion controller is just that much smoother and more stable than a
parallel port that I could immediately increase my rapids by 33% and still not lose steps, and the steppers seemed to run cooler.

I have been using Mach4 for seven years now, and its all but essential to have an external motion controller to use and get the most from Mach4, so I have great respect and confidence
in my ESS. I paid $180USD seven years ago and I've used ever since. The best and cheapest investment I ever made in CNC.

Craig

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Mach 3 stops mid cut
« on: March 18, 2022, 06:28:46 PM »
Hi,
that sounds like a 'run out of data' issue.

Mach is the trajectory planner and it sends blocks of numeric P(osition) V(elocity) over T(ime) data to the motion controller, in your circumstance the parallel port
driver. These blocks of data are stored in a buffer and the motion controller consumes one time slice, or data packet, every 1 millisecond.

Hopefully Mach can keep up and send enough data packets to keep the buffer full. If however Mach gets bogged down or some other software prevents Mach from running
at timely intervals then the buffer will empty and the motion controller wont have any data and will not know what to do and stop. This is called a 'run out of data fault'.

One simple expedient is to increase the length of the buffer. Machs parallel port has, if memory serves, a 500 millisecond buffer. You might try increasing that to 750 ms
and see whether that helps.

I use an Ethernet SmoothStepper as a motion controller, and it relieves the PC of having to generate pulse streams, for which PCs are notoriously poor, and so can run
the buffer at well under 500ms, in fact I have it set to 180ms, but I have reduced it further on a trial basis down to 100ms, all without encountering the dreaded
'run out of data' fault.

A good external motion controller will markedly improve the smoothness of operation, increase the reliability in face of competing software while additionally allowing the use
of 64bit OS's like Windows 10. Do yourself a favor.

Craig

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: Mach4, Pandant xhc HB04B wireless help
« on: March 16, 2022, 07:47:37 PM »
Hi,
you require a Mach4 ready plugin in order to get it to work. XHC can't be bothered to write it....go figure!

smurph, our very own Mach4 developer and programmer has written a XHC pendant plugin, although if memory serves its for a wired plugin, not wireless.
Try searching through smurph's posts.

Craig

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Hi,
while I can well believe that at 24V your stepper would miss steps, maybe without the torque authority to catch up, but it should at least have faulted as 'Excess Following Error'.

How have you programmed the Following Error Window? How wide is it?

Craig

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