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Title: squaring slaved axis without limit switch
Post by: callcbm on December 29, 2015, 02:02:39 PM
I have  stepper drives with belt drive reduced 4-1 . when drive take off start the same but seem to fight each other one going faster then the other then changing sides. you can watch it do it. Belts are tight pullys are the same size as well as the motors. Changed cables no difference. has to be in a setting in mach. Motor tuned the same.

Thanks Randy
Title: Re: squaring slaved axis without limit switch
Post by: Davek0974 on December 29, 2015, 02:40:06 PM
Are you 100% certain both motors are tuned exactly the same - speed, acceleration and steps per???

If yes it sounds like one side is losing steps.
Title: Re: squaring slaved axis without limit switch
Post by: callcbm on December 29, 2015, 02:53:16 PM
Yes tried different setting  thought was loosing steps. didn't change . Change up down every setting I could think of save each made sure there identical .Thans Randy
Title: Re: squaring slaved axis without limit switch
Post by: Davek0974 on December 29, 2015, 03:03:08 PM
Are both drives programmed exactly the same on the dip-switches, assuming they have them??

Are both motors identical?
Title: Re: squaring slaved axis without limit switch
Post by: callcbm on December 29, 2015, 03:05:33 PM
both motors are identical and using g540 no dip switch
Title: Re: squaring slaved axis without limit switch
Post by: Davek0974 on December 29, 2015, 03:10:45 PM
Then failing it being a mechanical issue, to rule that out pull the motors of and make sure the axis slides freely on its own, i cant really offer much more up here, hopefully someone will chime in.
Title: Re: squaring slaved axis without limit switch
Post by: magicniner on December 29, 2015, 04:37:39 PM
What is the construction of the machine and is it square with all drive removed?
If drive tension is required to pull the machine into square the issue could be mechanical bind which will tend to alternate from side to side.
Title: Re: squaring slaved axis without limit switch
Post by: BR549 on December 29, 2015, 07:56:48 PM
FIRST question what controller are you using ?? LPT version or other ??

(;-) TP
Title: Re: squaring slaved axis without limit switch
Post by: callcbm on December 29, 2015, 08:10:17 PM
G540 with lpt
Title: Re: squaring slaved axis without limit switch
Post by: callcbm on December 29, 2015, 08:12:56 PM
The drive seam to race each other for the lead. I have a x axis setup that works fine just the slaved y . each side fight for the lead. The gantry was Squared when started but each motor is pulling it out of square but will change from side to side . Flipping the cables had no effect
Title: Re: squaring slaved axis without limit switch
Post by: BR549 on December 29, 2015, 09:09:56 PM
I would post your XML and someone can look to see if there are problems there. The problem sounds vaguely familar.

(;-) TP
Title: Re: squaring slaved axis without limit switch
Post by: Overloaded on December 29, 2015, 11:40:49 PM
Are you sure your power supply is adequate ?

Russ
Title: Re: squaring slaved axis without limit switch
Post by: Davek0974 on December 30, 2015, 03:39:01 AM
Are you 100% sure BOTH motors are actually turning under power?

I had a similar issue when building and the gantry was being pulled along by one side which would then cause the other side to spring forwards every few inches, sort of like how you explain it.

I would pull both motors and set them side by side on top of the table, fit a marker - tape or pointer etc to each one and run some sync tests.
Title: Re: squaring slaved axis without limit switch
Post by: callcbm on December 30, 2015, 02:13:06 PM
found the problem was the shafts in the reduction pulley would turn almost a full turn then catch and then release. Know the opposite side is doing it. I dislike to have to use set screws to secure to a shaft as this would happen. And yes I did flatten were the set screw hit the shaft. First time setting pulse for movement right on the nose.
Title: Re: squaring slaved axis without limit switch
Post by: magicniner on December 30, 2015, 02:18:41 PM
It sounds like mechanical oscillation