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General Mach Discussion / Re: CNC 8060Z
« on: June 09, 2017, 05:12:43 PM »
Hi,
rewiring is not trivial but certainly doable and OP well able to handle it.

The PMDX products have buffered and filtered and/or optoisolated IO, screw terminals and on board supply. All in all PMDX have taken a
great deal of care to design and build devices which are immediately practical and easy to use.

The SmoothSteppers from Warp9 require a BoB. So you have two boards, the motion controller AND a BoB.
The USB connected version can derive power from the PC whereas the Ethernet connected one requires a separate 5V supply. Of course to achieve
galvanaic isolation a separate supply is a must. The BoB of your choice is what determines how the IO is handled which lends flexibility
but still requires another board and a sometimes power supply as well. Both SmoothSteppers have 3 'ports' worth of IO which means room
for considerable expansion. As can be seen the SmothSteppers are not quite as convenient as PMDX boards but are flexible and have room
for expansion.

For OP who is capable of rewiring, providing power supplies and so on then either will work fine. Both companies enjoy industry leading
reputation for backup and support.



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General Mach Discussion / Re: HELP a newbie, so stress and depress...
« on: June 09, 2017, 03:09:11 AM »
Hi,
it is definitely a parallel port connected BoB with USb as a powersupply only.

I would suggest in the first instance disconnect all the stepper drives from the BoB. Concentrate on the Estop to start with, that will
establish communication with Mach, the start adding motors.

What port and pin is assigned to Estop?

Craig

6923
Hi smurph,
that's kool. I'm unfamiliar with Galil...am I correct in the idea that the Galil device actually runs proprietary motion code which is derived
from Gcode? The PC really only translates Gcode instructions which actually run on a realtime computing device...

The major reason for me to attempt to write this plugin is to learn and also contribute to the CNC community. It would appear however that in
absence of realtime determinism any 'contribution' would be sort of meaningless as it could not really be used with guaranteed results.

That Galil has already and others are working to the same end supports my contention that EtherCat may well become a dominant technology in
years to come.

My experience is that even a modest Atom base PC can quite happily run Mach and PP. This suggests to me that a PC, even a modest one, actually
has the 'horsepower' to do realtime computing job but Windows all but precludes realtime determinism. The question I'm asking myself is 'does a
Windows PC do near enough to realtime to be useful as an EtherCat Master?' You can see I haven't given up on the idea totally.

Craig




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General Mach Discussion / Re: HELP a newbie, so stress and depress...
« on: June 08, 2017, 08:41:08 PM »
Hi,
middle upper of BoB, next to relay, is that a USB socket?

Craig

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General Mach Discussion / Re: CNC 8060Z
« on: June 08, 2017, 08:30:39 PM »
Hi Nicolas,
the reason the OP is looking to replace the controller/BoB is that the Chinese piece of junk dosen't
work. Trying to get useful support...its not like they're in another country...more like another planet!

Have a look at the pics...any amount enuf room for a different board. If OP were to look at PMDX 414 or416
or if he wants potential expansion the 424...the terminals are all screw type...easy. Either powered by USB
or onboard 230V supply..easy. The controller and Bob are built in...easy. PMDX english speaking backup...best
in the business...easy.

Yes OP will have to rewire a bit, so what, welcome to DIY CNC. May yet be a hurdle or two to manage spindle
speed control depending on control requirements.

Craig

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General Mach Discussion / Re: CNC 8060Z
« on: June 08, 2017, 02:42:55 PM »
Hi,
kool, shouldn't ne any problem to drive those puppies.

Craig

6927
Hi,
where are you measuring your 9V?. If its at the UC100 input pin then you risk wrecking it.

I suspect that as one input goes low then the reverse current flowing into the UC100 inputs is somewhat reduced therefore the remaining
pins achieve somewhat closer to 5V. If you are injecting current into the UC100 inputs STOP! The input gate of the Schmitt triggers are likely
protected by diodes from overdrive. Any substantial current will blow them open with unknown consequences for operation of the gate.

Craig

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General Mach Discussion / Re: CNC 8060Z
« on: June 08, 2017, 08:32:42 AM »
Hi,
can you inspect one of the stepper drives a bit more closely, hopefully to indentify the manufacturer and get a manual or pinout. You need to
know what each of the four input wires are. Cant see how the VFD is controlled, looks a bit like a simple on/off relay on the motion control
board.

Maybe in the first instance don't worry about controlling the VFD, just get the axes, limits and homes working.

Craig

6929
Hi,
what voltage are the proximity sensors?

Craig

6930
Hi,
with the inputs disconnected the input pins should by virtue of the pullup resistor be 5V. With active low inputs all Machs input LEDs should
be off. Shorting any one input to 0V should turn Machs input LED on. If not you've buggered it. TTL devices DO NOT like being reverse biased.

Craig

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