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General Mach Discussion / Re: Problems threading on the lathe
« on: May 24, 2009, 11:06:48 AM »
thx, Greg is a very good at dealing with such issues. In the end though, it may be Windows triggering some unknown
wait state when the USB locks up, Im really not sure.
  I havent looked at the plugin source for awhile, but Im pretty sure we were carefull not to add any code that waits on USB transmission
in the update loop, so Im thinking thi smay be a hardware issue that coudl be hard to resolve.

Art

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Problems threading on the lathe
« on: May 23, 2009, 07:09:05 PM »
It does sound as if the plugin is locked up waiting for the SS to respond, though I didnt think the main loop of th eupdate in the SS waits for USB traffic.. it should just trip an error.

Id mention this one to Greg to see if he can think of anything. The fact that Mach comes back to life seems when the usb is unplugged seems to be a situation where the communications is being
waited on by something.. but by design the plugins dont wait for traffic, they just analyse what has come in.. it does sound like a locked up thread though..

Art

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Problems threading on the lathe
« on: May 23, 2009, 04:46:38 PM »
Hi:

  The error messages dont really tell much because your forcing it to close.
Is it totally unresponsive in all aspects, can you trigger an Estop for example?

  It should be near impossible for MAch3 to lock up when not using the printer port.. unusual at least.
I would delete all files in the plugins folder except the smoothstepper.dll and see if that helps.. It may be some
other plugin causing the lockup due to some bad interaction. Worth a shot anyway.

Art

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Problems threading on the lathe
« on: May 22, 2009, 09:07:07 AM »
Hi:

  Thx for the information. Nice to hear of good threads at any time. :)

Art

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Problems threading on the lathe
« on: May 22, 2009, 07:59:37 AM »
Hi:

>>The problem now each time a new pass starts, it starts just a few degrees later . On a 3-4 pass thread 40 tpi or so you can only see the problem under a microscope.

  This is an odd problem to have. (Though Im pleased pitch and such isnt a problem on either lathe, but then it really shouldnt be.). This new thrust is really meant to help
in compensating for computers that vary their internal timing , it is thought ( primarily by me. :) ), that many of the issues with threading are a result of internal clocking
differences in some CPU types and motherbaords. The new plugin is goign to try to address those by getting more accurate data from the cpu and motherbaord and
allowing a better averageing of these random frequency changes. When you average a true random event, you average to zero displacement. So a multi slot
system ( say 90 slots in a rotation ) should be 64 times as stable ( I average over 64 slots in the driver ), and more responsive as its correction algorithm will use a rolling
avergae over the 64 slots so even one slot timing changing from a load will compensate. In theory all this will help.. a lot if Im right, not at all if Im wrong.

  Your problem though.. cant see it. Either the license file is acting up ( make sure it doesnt read demo..) or the "Use Spindle Feedback for sync" isnt checked. The only
other possability is a floating time on the trigger (index) pulse or a computer that is internally floating more than most. Almost no reports have ever been made of start
trigger fluctuations though.. normally errors are in the pitch realm, but from variations during cut, not from the start, on 99% of systems the first several threads are
near perfect.  There arent enough users to give you stats on how many have issues with threads, but I hear from fewer with problems that I do from people with
threads that are good. Within a short period though I will turn on the compensator algortithm with this current testing.. and we'll see if all is well , better, or worse
with this theory.

Thx
Art

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Problems threading on the lathe
« on: May 20, 2009, 05:55:35 PM »
oopss..

Here the files..

Art

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Problems threading on the lathe
« on: May 20, 2009, 05:54:52 PM »
Hi Guys:

 Found a problem with encoder input, nSlots was counting slots properly. Hopefully thi swill fix that if your using an encoder input..

Chip: Any idea why the number of slots is zero on your? Other than that the numbers look great.

Art

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LazyTurn / Re: LazyTurn
« on: May 20, 2009, 09:33:52 AM »
Rich:

 Thx for the report. I had a < when I needed a <= .. :) ,
so a group was lost on ordering. This version fixes that..

Art

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LazyTurn / Re: LazyTurn
« on: May 19, 2009, 10:05:17 PM »
Rich:

 Nope, should do multiple tools.

 Cant seem to duplicate the missing toolpath, can you post the tools used on that dxf..

thx

Art

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Problems threading on the lathe
« on: May 19, 2009, 10:11:35 AM »
Hi Guys:

  New version, shoudl show steady RPM's on your displays in encoder or slot input.
Let me know if your RPM's are now accurate and stable if you can.. Ill then start working on the actual threading speed correction algorithm, which will complete ( hopefully) slot based or encoder threading. Then, finally, we get to see
if this all actually makes better and more pitch accurate threads. :)

Art