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LazyTurn / Re: LazyTurn
« on: December 09, 2008, 06:26:39 AM »
Art,
To do with square tool and file attached.
RICH

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LazyTurn / Re: LazyTurn
« on: December 08, 2008, 06:50:11 PM »
Art,
For most tests i have been using the button or diamond.

I get TO DO's with the square tool.
Should we avoid any tool's? Can post the file with info?

RICH

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LazyTurn / Re: LazyTurn
« on: December 08, 2008, 06:07:29 PM »
Art,
Maybe a clue for you.
 The Rough Pullout screen, when first opened in previous versions, showed the tool depth setting for the tool you selected, and noticed that the depth setting is off by "THREE" decimal places. Just did this for the botton tool and havn't checked the other tools.

In fact it seems to vary.
created        rough depth
tool depth
.002             2
.032             3.2

Rich

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LazyTurn / Re: LazyTurn
« on: December 07, 2008, 08:46:15 PM »
Hank,
Post any dxf that dosn't work.

Make note of what Chip has done to your files. Also make note of how he changed the profile relative to 0,0,0
/ you drawn the profile in the -x  + y quadrant / 9 to 12 o'clock quadrant in watch terms.

When you set up a tool in LazyTurn are you then creating it? Then select it as the one to use?

How you save a tool in LazyCam Turn is done a certain / different way and info is in the manual.

If you have a bad / inferior drawn / or problematic dxf, lazyturn will give you errors, and as stated
in another post, if the image dosn't happen then the drawing needs to be revised.
SOME COMMON MISTAKES IN THE DXF:
- Not drawn in the upper left quadrant and only showing one half of the profile
- Profile not  located to the left of 0,0,0
- Lines, curves, circles, or whatever do not connect to each other
- Poor transitions between parts of the profile
- Elements of the profile are not imported because they were shut off before the dxf was made
-  A negative element ( a line....even a little dot .....just a pixel.... is in the negative side of the profile
- Multiple lines ( one drawn over the other )
- Differences on how the dxf is created by diifferent programs and the differences between dxf fiel versions
- Elements which are attached to the profile by mistake and actualy touch it
Just a few drawing items that come to mind.

As far as generating Gcode from that profile, well, that is another story. We have done some stuff in here for testing
, but, practicaly speaking, even if the code was generated you may never be able to machine it without manipulating
the code, breaking it up into the proper or practical machining sequence. So the gcode is another story.

RICH   

MODIFIED TO ADD BELOW:
And just when you think you are the master of the profile, artesan of the mouse, checker of checker, some little pixel fragment
comes along and  humbles you again! and again....and again.......  ;D



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LazyTurn / Re: LazyTurn
« on: December 07, 2008, 06:55:00 PM »
Art,
Maybe wrong verbage. A few files have taken as as long as 20 miinutes ( 3 ghz and 2 gig memory on my PC).
that is not the morn.  Lazyturn was found to be be "Not Responding" for application status by windows task manager
and i had to end the process to get out of it ( so my words for that are "locked up").

If  Windows Task Manager is invoked will it screw up Lazyturn? Maybe that's the question.
If the answer is no then no need for an error message.

As far as a facing I just rotated  the profile out of curiuosity.
RICH

PS: The original profile is in post #393 as that will give all kinds of errors.

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LazyTurn / Re: LazyTurn
« on: December 07, 2008, 05:37:28 PM »
POST 3 OF 3

DFX files and gcode ( all 9000+ lines, no finishinig cuts added ). ;D
 
RICH

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LazyTurn / Re: LazyTurn
« on: December 07, 2008, 05:36:07 PM »
POST 2 OF 3
Art,
REV1_C1-Is there a basic rule that you can't have a backward line towards the lathe tail end in the profile?

REV1A_C1 / C2 - Seems bad curve transitions and roughs close to the profile along with small rough cuts can cause
 LazyTurn to lock up. Need to start thinking / envisioning in terms of clash. I used the diagnostic output a lot on this profile
and was helpful. But not a good indicator that you were going to get gcode.
Is it possible to have LazyTurn give you an error message that it is no longer running? I know if something is taking
too long i can always CRTL/Delete to see whats up....just a though.

REV1A_C3 - Pic of file in Mach

DFX files and gcode of LazyTurn in next post.
 
RICH

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LazyTurn / Re: LazyTurn
« on: December 07, 2008, 05:34:27 PM »
POST 1 OF 3
Art,
Think I answered the question on the code limit but you may want to remark.
The man  file was a challenge but also a learning experience.
The code stopped on the small undercut / bad transition of the nose.
( see my next post )
But it did produce code up to that point. In the horizontal turning ( next post) LazyTurn would not
until the profile was modified some or rough values adjusted.
RICH

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LazyTurn / Re: LazyTurn
« on: December 06, 2008, 11:47:45 PM »
Chip,
Assume your like me hacking away, bouncing between programs, numerous Layturn tries....I just had to reboot the PC after a while and it seemed like Lazyturn went back to normal. I am going back through all of my dxf files and checking one by to see if i can find anything.

Now if you get bored with the normal, try getting the attached to work, guaranteed to give error....it's a face turned on it's side.
Man was it hard trying to trace my egg! ;D
RICH
 

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LazyTurn / Re: LazyTurn
« on: December 06, 2008, 07:43:39 PM »
The dxf for reply #390
Rich

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