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Mach Discussion => General Mach Discussion => Topic started by: DaveDoesIT on September 17, 2008, 02:56:18 PM

Title: DriverTest not working
Post by: DaveDoesIT on September 17, 2008, 02:56:18 PM
Hi people,

Hood has been trying to help with this but we are getting nowhere.

I am using win2000 on  2.4G Core 2 Duo PC.

When I run DriverTest it comes up with "Mach2 Compatibility Test Diagnostics."

How can I get the Mach3 version? This was a clean install yesterday. See this thread for more info

 http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,8366.0.html

Thanks in advance.

Dave
Title: Re: DriverTest not working
Post by: budman68 on September 17, 2008, 03:02:59 PM
Can't you just uninstall and delete (except what you want to save of course) the Mach folder on the C: drive? Then reinstall..

You are loading it onto the C: drive, correct?

Dave
Title: Re: DriverTest not working
Post by: DaveDoesIT on September 17, 2008, 03:52:31 PM
Can't you just uninstall and delete (except what you want to save of course) the Mach folder on the C: drive? Then reinstall..
You are loading it onto the C: drive, correct?

Thanks for the reply, but I did that yesterday when Hood was trying to help.

I deleted everything associated with Mach3 including going through the Registry, I installed to C:\Mach3

In Properties for this DriverTest.exe file
Size = 421 KB (431,616 bytes) and
Size on disk = 424 KB (434,176 bytes)

Could someone validate this for a version that shows Mach3 in the Title bar?

I suspect the old Mach2 version is in the installer.

Dave
Title: Re: DriverTest not working
Post by: Hood on September 17, 2008, 03:59:20 PM
That is the driver test for that version of Mach and it doesnt matter that it has Mach2 in the title bar, it has only recently been updated to look like the one I posted a screenshot of yesterday. If you want to see that download the ver3.042 and you should see it. However that is not going to solve your problem as for some reason the driver is not working on your computer and loading a different test utility wont change that :(

Hood
Title: Re: DriverTest not working
Post by: budman68 on September 17, 2008, 04:42:49 PM
This has to be one of the weirdest things I've seen.

I'm just sorry I don't have any clue how to help -  :(

Dave
Title: Re: DriverTest not working
Post by: Chaoticone on September 17, 2008, 05:19:41 PM
Dave, I have sent you a PM

Brett
Title: Re: DriverTest not working
Post by: DaveDoesIT on September 17, 2008, 06:14:25 PM
However that is not going to solve your problem as for some reason the driver is not working on your computer and loading a different test utility wont change that

Hi Hood and the others who have responded.

The DriverTest stopped working after I ran the SpecialDriver.bat.

When I ran OriginalDriver.bat, rebooted it worked again.

Sooo, since I was running the driver test to see what max kernal speed I can use maybe running the newer version of the DriverTest will suffice.

I will give it a shot as I have nothing to lose here. :-)

I will also install Mach3 on the XP in the garage and see what that does.

Dave
Title: Re: DriverTest not working
Post by: DaveDoesIT on September 17, 2008, 06:21:32 PM
Dave, I have sent you a PM

Hi Brett, yup got it and replied. I would like to understand what is going on with Mach3. I am a newbie to it and would like to be able to use it for both mill and lathe. My need right now though is to use the PWM to control the intensity of a formerly dead CO2 laser marking machine I was given which I now have running, albeit all but marking.

I cannot get the laser intensity electronics to work so I am thinking of tearing out all the electronics and using a xylotex or something to drive the current steppers. Before doing that I wanted to just try the PWM output and see if it would drive the Laser. It requires 5v at 5KHz so I need Mach 3 to be able use a kernel speed of 60K. If that works then tearing out the electronics makes sense.

That's how I got started on this DriverTest thing.

Dave
Title: Re: DriverTest not working
Post by: Hood on September 17, 2008, 06:38:05 PM
Dave you say the driver test stopped working after you loaded the special driver but from my understanding it has never worked for you.
Have you ever seen a line in the window of the driver test?
If you did was it smooth or full of spikes?
 If you have just seen the blank screen then for some reason the driver is not functioning correctly or the driver test is not seeing it. If its a case of the test not seeing it you can confirm its working by putting a scope on a Step pin and jog the axis, you should see a pulse, alternatively, if you dont have a scope,  you can use a voltmeter on milli volt range and you will see a voltage, the voltage is unimportant but will increase with speed.

 Once again it does not matter that the Driver test says Mach2 in the top, it will work with Mach3 it is just Art had never changed the writing in the drivertest namebar.

Hood
Title: Re: DriverTest not working
Post by: DaveDoesIT on September 17, 2008, 07:06:47 PM
Dave you say the driver test stopped working after you loaded the special driver but from my understanding it has never worked for you.

Sorry if I misled you, it did work but I didn't understand what it was telling me. I was just getting a message that said "Mach1 test complete" but I had no results of the "test"

You then showed me a pic which would have told me what I wanted to know regarding kernel speed, but my copy did not have any of that because as I now find out that your copy was from the Development version.

Have you ever seen a line in the window of the driver test?

If smooth is good then this will shock you. LOL

Title: Re: DriverTest not working
Post by: Hood on September 17, 2008, 07:09:59 PM
oh oh thats not good, try doing the optimisation steps, they are for XP but most can be done in W2K as well.
Hood
Title: Re: DriverTest not working
Post by: DaveDoesIT on September 17, 2008, 07:58:02 PM
oh oh thats not good, try doing the optimisation steps, they are for XP but most can be done in W2K as well.

Hi Hood,

Thanks for the help but I wanted to learn to use as much Mach3 on the PC in the house but this is getting silly. I am  not going to mess with my main computer.

I have just ordered more memory for the XP machine in the garage and will install Ubuntu and try EMC2, I have been a programmer since 1976 and I am surprised at this software, and IMHO it really is not ready for the real world. It is still too human set-up intensive. Probably trying to do too many things for too many situations and not getting many of them right.

Anyway, thank you for putting in so much effort to help.

Dave
Title: Re: DriverTest not working
Post by: RICH on September 17, 2008, 10:00:45 PM
Dave,
I have seen a driver test just like the one you posted. In fact it looks very similar the one my computer at work will
generate. The computer at work has every kind of anti-virus and spyware not to mention the corporate junk software on it you can imagine. As a programmer setup shoud be a piece of cake for you. By the way, don't play with your mouse
when doing the driver test as it will create all kinds of spikes.
When the driver test is running it will show if there are interuptions accuring.
Take a breath, new software, getting the machine running, getting parameters for your specific needs. All can get rather confusing quickly.
As far as not being ready for the real world, you should try some of the others!
RICH
Title: Re: DriverTest not working
Post by: RICH on September 17, 2008, 10:19:20 PM
Dave,
This was a thread about the driver test

http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,7093.0.html

RICH
Title: Re: DriverTest not working
Post by: Overloaded on September 17, 2008, 10:43:23 PM
Hey Dave, Really hate to see you go. I'm no programmer OR electrician, but I am managing to pick it up in bits and pieces as I go along. Maybe that's why I am so impressed with it.
Here's an idea....Spend a few hours with LazyCam. Then Mach will more closely resemble a kindergarten coloring book !
Regards,
RC :)

Oh..... and a word of warning.    Watch out for RICH's spider. :o He shouldn't bother you...he's been well fed lately. ::)
Title: Re: DriverTest not working
Post by: RICH on September 18, 2008, 08:28:14 PM
  ;D RC
The humbled spider is improving web making technique's. He is hungry, determined, and more knowlegable on entrapment.  So beware, there just may be one hanging around your lathe!

 :) RICH