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Re: List of Jetcam requests :)
« Reply #110 on: May 21, 2007, 10:14:29 AM »
Hi Stan

Firstly, thanks for all your hard work on the screen designer. THings are a bit hectic for me at work at the moment, but while some of my data is being analysed I thought I would have a quick play.

I think I've broken it already!
I opened a new project - I like the interface. Then a new screen. Not sure if images should work yet as per your readme so I thought I would try a plain background image. selected the image I wanted, and it showed up in the preview. Hit ok and nothing happened. As that didn't seem to work, I tired adding a button to the screen. However whatever i try, clicking, draggin etc, I get the message "Canvas Does Not Allow Drawing"

Am I going wrong somewhere?

Cheers

Dave
Re: List of Jetcam requests :)
« Reply #111 on: May 21, 2007, 10:15:27 AM »
Hi Stan

Firstly, thanks for all your hard work on the screen designer. THings are a bit hectic for me at work at the moment, but while some of my data is being analysed I thought I would have a quick play.

I think I've broken it already!
I opened a new project - I like the interface. Then a new screen. Not sure if images should work yet as per your readme so I thought I would try a plain background image. selected the image I wanted, and it showed up in the preview. Hit ok and nothing happened. As that didn't seem to work, I tired adding a button to the screen. However whatever i try, clicking, draggin etc, I get the message "Canvas Does Not Allow Drawing"

Am I going wrong somewhere?

Cheers

Dave

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Re: List of Jetcam requests :)
« Reply #112 on: May 21, 2007, 11:24:47 AM »
Hi David,

You definately found a problem there and I'll look into it.
I am still having some real problems dealing with images since having to
include PNG support.

You could try to load an existing MACH screen project or wizard.
That should get you started to get familiar with the editor.

I will look into the screen background image problem and
post an update as soon as time allows.

regards

Stan






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http://files.jetcam.net/stan/mach/

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Re: List of Jetcam requests :)
« Reply #113 on: May 21, 2007, 12:23:38 PM »
Hi All,

The problem Dave found has been fixed and an updated
version can be obtained from the following link.

http://Http://sanologic.net/MSD/MSD.zip

Regards

Stan
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http://files.jetcam.net/stan/mach/

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Re: List of Jetcam requests :)
« Reply #114 on: May 21, 2007, 02:27:25 PM »
Dave,

Another way to assign an image to the screen background
(for example when loading an existing MACH screen) is to
double click the image on the screen,  and then in the
image properties dialog,  click the [Assign to Screen Background] button.

What this does,  is it destroys the image item,  and assigns the bitmap to the
screen background property.  This method saves a bit of time when working
with existing MACH screens.

As mentioned in my previous post,  I have fixed the problem you found,
and a new download is available.

Regards

Stan
Download JetCam screen designer from
http://files.jetcam.net/stan/mach/
Re: List of Jetcam requests :)
« Reply #115 on: May 21, 2007, 03:05:52 PM »
Hi Stan

Thanks for the fix. I've just had another quick look and noticed a couple of other things -

1) When I apply the background image it doesn't appear until I click on the backdrop - but only sometimes! Other times it just pops up fine.
2) If I set some DRO's on the screen, then decide to skin them, on selecting the skin and exiting the dialog, the DRO jumps to the mouse and drags around. This could be a pain if you wanted to re-skin existing DRO's - you would have to re-align every one.

3) The transparent dragging is really good - i like it a lot!
4) Where the screen explorer is on the right, is there a plan to have preview images there, or even some text to describe each screen?

I gotta say I am looking forward to using this editor in anger - owww, just found button shine, so many tys to play with  ;D

Cheers

Dave

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Re: List of Jetcam requests :)
« Reply #116 on: May 21, 2007, 03:39:14 PM »
Hi David,

When I apply the background image it doesn't appear until I click on the backdrop
I'll look into it.  I don't see that problem here.


If I set some DRO's on the screen, then decide to skin them, on selecting the skin and exiting the dialog,
the DRO jumps to the mouse and drags around.


I'll look into it.  There is a Lock button on the toolbar.  Use this to lock all the items
so they can't be moved when you want to select and edit properties.


The transparent dragging is really good - i like it a lot!

Yes,  it helps to "see" the item while your dragging.


Where the screen explorer is on the right, is there a plan to have preview images there,
or even some text to describe each screen?


Absolutely.  But right now,  I am struggling to just get basic editing working.
Image handling is going to have to completely change and I have to finish
the MACH file format output generator.

Don't forget,  if you set up an item (or items),  you can drag them off your screen
and into the items palette (Tree) on the Left of the editor screen.
The editor will make copies and permanently store those for you for use on
other screens and/or projects.

For example,  if you have a nice generic button or something like that,
you should add it to your palette.  The palette displays your custom
items gray (normal items are always blue).  Note : Make sure you
drop your item(s) into the right group.


Regards

Stan
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Re: List of Jetcam requests :)
« Reply #117 on: May 22, 2007, 05:20:01 AM »
Hi Stan

Lock Button

I've had a play with this. Personally, I would prefer the functionality to be slightly different. I think it will be rather cumbersome to keep locking and unlocking everytime you want to edit the properties. Would it be possible to be able to lock each screen 'feature' individually. I am thinking of situations of where you may want to put two object close together, or on top of each other.

Items Palette
Added the custom button to the palette and retrieved it - great feature. My only concern is with organisation. Is there any way we can control the tree structure and add more branches? Say for example I have 5 sets of stop buttons, 5 start buttons, jog buttons etc I can see the current button branch becoming enormous. It would nice to be able to create a further set of branches, so it would look like -
Button
Button
Image Button
-Start Buttons
     Start 1
     Start 2
     Start 3
- Jog Buttons
     -Set 1
             Up
             Down
     - Set 2
             Big Up


Etc
hopefully you get the idea

Screen Explorer
Is there a way to copy a screen ? I often use the same master screen and copy the contents to a new page, With your explorer I think it would be easier to copy the whole page?

How's the work going with the graphics ? When I get some time I will try and look at using the designer in some form of anger.

Cheers

Dave

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Re: List of Jetcam requests :)
« Reply #118 on: May 22, 2007, 05:53:28 AM »
Hi David,

Lock Button


The functionality you are asking for will be added as an additional feature rather
than a replacement for the existing global locking funtionality.  Can't say when
though.


Items Palette

The items palette will almost certainly be improved in the future.


Is there a way to copy a screen?

Absolutely.  Select the screen background so that no items are selected.
(This de-selects any selected items).  Do this by clicking the background
of the screen with the mouse.

Then...
Press Ctrl-C to copy the entire screen to the windows clipboard.
Press Ctrl-V to paste the copied screen as a new screen.

This should also work across projects.



Regards

Stan
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http://files.jetcam.net/stan/mach/
Re: List of Jetcam requests :)
« Reply #119 on: May 22, 2007, 06:28:08 AM »
Stan

Lock button
Great!

Items Palette
Great!

Copying Screens
Just tried it and it works fine. One other thing that pops to mind. You can give each screen a number - what about tab for jogging controls?

Cheers

Dave