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141  Third party software and hardware support forums. / CS-Lab / Re: CSMIO/IP wiring outputs and MPG module config on: December 30, 2013, 09:51:31 AM
Deleted the XML and created a new profile again. Now this issue is gone. Have no idea how it was getting access to the old XML after I did windows restore.

Now got to the MPG. The way it is, is strange, because it appears that they made all the settings for me and I can't change it. I have a pendant with a momentary enable switch for the resolution select and the axis select (like they show in their example in the manual), but funnily this switch also enables/disables the MPG wheel, although physically they are not linked (like can be seen in their example). Is it the normal way it works? Also pressing this switch activates the two digital outputs on the MPG module as seen on the diagnostics LEDs. Have no idea why it happens.

Dan
142  Third party software and hardware support forums. / CS-Lab / Re: CSMIO/IP wiring outputs and MPG module config on: December 30, 2013, 07:17:13 AM
Yes, have fresh Mach3 and XML with a new, different name profile. Will check regarding the .Net.

Dan
143  Third party software and hardware support forums. / CS-Lab / Re: CSMIO/IP wiring outputs and MPG module config on: December 30, 2013, 06:15:20 AM
Yes, using the IP-S. So seems I still have something left over from the IP-A installation, though when I did windows restore it deleted everything including Mach3, so not sure where do I delete this.

Dan
144  Third party software and hardware support forums. / CS-Lab / Re: CSMIO/IP wiring outputs and MPG module config on: December 30, 2013, 04:41:48 AM
Hi Hood,

Did a restore to Windows to a point before installing the IP-A software as I had a feeling there were some conflicts, and now those errors are gone Smiley

However, now have another issue - when trying to jog I am getting this error message. Ever seen this?

Dan
145  Third party software and hardware support forums. / CS-Lab / Re: CSMIO/IP wiring outputs and MPG module config on: December 29, 2013, 02:27:42 PM
Hood,

Mach version .062, plugin version 2.1 (latest on the website), but also tried the one that came on the CD with the CSMIO which was version 2.05, I think. Thanks for the offer, will get the XML tomorrow. You have the IP-S on the Connect?

Dan
146  Third party software and hardware support forums. / CS-Lab / Re: CSMIO/IP wiring outputs and MPG module config on: December 29, 2013, 09:41:43 AM
OK, have it partly worked out. You are right - it wants me to enter some value in the encoder index homing. After doing it, it continues to pop all sorts of other messages, like wrong slave parameters, wrong spindle parameters, and so on. Entering values for all these, it eventually allows me to do a save, but then after I exit and reload the config, all the settings are erased and back to default. Just can't wok this way. So you're saying you never had seen this... and CS Labs are not answering... Will may be try to call them tomorrow.

Dan
147  Third party software and hardware support forums. / CS-Lab / Re: CSMIO/IP wiring outputs and MPG module config on: December 29, 2013, 07:35:41 AM
Hi Hood,

Supplying 5V to the pots fixed things indeed. Now facing another issue though. When opening the CSMIO plugin config window I am getting some invalid argument message, see a screenshot attached (msg1). Then if trying to save the settings I am getting an error message, see screenshot attached (msg2). Any idea what it might be? Didn't have this happen when I was playing with the CSMIO/IP-A.

Dan
148  Third party software and hardware support forums. / CS-Lab / Re: CSMIO/IP wiring outputs and MPG module config on: December 27, 2013, 01:56:57 PM
Thanks, Hood! Will redo the analogue on Sunday when I get to the workshop.

Checked the datasheet for the above chip and it seems to be sourcing only, indeed. And as you guessed, it can take anything from 5.5V to 36V and have it on the outputs. Not the best solution for an industrial controller, though I can see some advantage in being able to output different voltage levels. Also, in a standard application I think you would most likely have common GND, not needing separate GND for every bunch of 4 outputs.

Thanks again. Think I can finish the wiring now.

Dan
149  Third party software and hardware support forums. / CS-Lab / Re: CSMIO/IP wiring outputs and MPG module config on: December 27, 2013, 10:54:39 AM
Hi Hood,

Thanks for the reply. I AM using 10v for the analogue indeed. The manual clearly says that they are 10V. I'll try to use the 5V and see if it helps. The resistors I am using are 1k, but also tried 5k and 10k.

Do you think there is a reason why they did the outputs so stupidly? If they are only sourcing then why do you have to supply both 24V and 0V...?

You got me a bit confused with the Estop - do you mean that pins 13 and 25 on the DB25 connector are on the control side of a relay which switches Estop1 and Estop2 on the power jack.? So providing continuity between pins 13 and 25 closes the relay and connects Estop1 to Estop2.

Dan
150  Third party software and hardware support forums. / CS-Lab / CSMIO/IP wiring outputs and MPG module config on: December 27, 2013, 01:29:18 AM
Hi,

Had a CSMIO/IP-A module lying around for quite some time, waiting for a retrofit of my mill. Eventually got to retrofit a router for a client and decided to use the module. However, had to purchase a CSMIO/IP-S module as the Panasonic drives on the machine only could take Step/Dir. Anyway, found myself facing some issues which aren't covered in the manuals and the CS-Labs staff seems to be very busy and haven't got a reponse from them since two weeks ago.

First, regarding the MPG module:

1. How do I access inputs of MPG module from Mach3? Which port and which pins? I am using two digital inputs from the MPG module for Start and FeedHold buttons. How do I define it in Maach3? Also my Estop button on the MPG module cuts 24VDC to one of the inputs (not Estop1 Estop2 inputs as I don’t understand them) – how do I configure it in Mach3?

2. I have 3 potentiometers on the Pendant (FRO, SRO and Rapid override). Two of them go through the MPG module and configured in CSMIO software. One of them goes to the CSMIO/IP-S directly. The potentiomters that connect to the MPG mdule have very slow and poor response in Mach3. I have to rotate them very slowly in order for the MAch3 DRO to update correctly. If I rotate a little bit faster then Mach3 DRO doesn’t update well – for instance winding it rapidly from zero to the opposite extreme, it would end up at 260% or so and not 300% . Also it seems that only half of the potentiometer’s travel is utilized – it is only half way to the max and the DRO already shows 300%. When I set the FRO in the CSMIO software to the 3rd potentiometer which is connected directly to the CSMIO/IP-S then it is more responsive and works better. However, still would stop at 290% if winding the pot quickly.

And regarding wiring the CSMIO/IP outputs (got my head around wiring the inputs). Their terminology of the pins is doesn't much the industrial for PLCs and such so a bit confusing! Also documentation lacks fundamental drawings of the internal electronics of the inputs and outputs (optos or transistors or open collector, etc.) like most manufacturers do and which helps understanding the I/O and wire them correctly. There is 24V and 0V on the digital outputs connector for every few outputs - how do you wire them?

Thanks,
Dan

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