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Mach Discussion => Mach Screens => Topic started by: ynneb on January 26, 2006, 06:16:19 PM

Title: Changes to Mach appearance features.
Post by: ynneb on January 26, 2006, 06:16:19 PM
Art thanks for allowing for the use of Transparent PNG files.
While it does work, there are some limitation as you will see below.
This picture should explain the current problems with the Transparent PNG inport.
Title: Re: Changes to Mach appearance features.
Post by: ynneb on January 26, 2006, 06:32:39 PM
Just for referance to others this is what I am hoping to achieve.
Esentially it will be an escutcheon for a screen.
I know this is not every ones cup of tea, however it will open up many possibilities in terms of screen appearance.
Title: Re: Changes to Mach appearance features.
Post by: ynneb on January 26, 2006, 08:49:53 PM
In the past I have mentioned Z levels. I think it may have been percieved that I was refereing to a CNC thing.
Many  drawing programs use this term for the level that the picture is displayed. (what picture displays over the next picture or component)
It would make things easier if Z levels for BMPs,etc,could be assigned. This would really help in terms of designing a screen where you can place DROS etc along with pictures on different levels. The order of appeance could be changed instead of the only current selection of "BMPs to back"
Title: Re: Changes to Mach appearance features.
Post by: Bloy on January 26, 2006, 09:31:53 PM
Benny,
   Nice example of what you are trying to achieve.  I like your idea of the "Z" levels being positionable....!
      let's hope it will be in the cards(read feasible).

John(bloy)

Title: Re: Changes to Mach appearance features.
Post by: ger21 on January 26, 2006, 09:54:49 PM
When I get some time (probably in a few years), I'm going to "borrow" your idea and make a router screen. I planned on modeling the "plate" and doing a 3D rendering of it, and use that for the bitmap. Do you have a free source for that font, by chance?
Title: Re: Changes to Mach appearance features.
Post by: ynneb on January 26, 2006, 10:03:03 PM
Ger, you can download the fonts from here http://machsupport.com/forum/index.php?topic=126.0
The thread will tell you how to implement them too, since it is not done in the screen designer.
With these DROs you could make displays something like the image below. Providing the transparent PNG thingy gets sorted out.

This is just a hint of what to expect. Imagine a whole screen image like this.
I didnt know how to simulate a DRO so I borrowd a time script that reads fro your computers clock
http://machsupport.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=183.0;id=92
Title: Re: Changes to Mach appearance features.
Post by: Art on January 27, 2006, 08:00:15 AM
Benny

  very nice... I must look into that.. YOu dont have the source code for that dispaly do you, there must be a way of attaching an alpha blend attribute to the DRO background... Ill give it some research...

Art
Title: Re: Changes to Mach appearance features.
Post by: ynneb on January 29, 2006, 05:28:19 AM
While you are doing adjustments you might as well insert this ability :)

This is a working demo. Slide the control to test.
This sort of slider could be used for quick speed adjustment, changing scale settings and other adjustable DRO needs.
http://machsupport.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=183.0;id=97
Title: Re: Changes to Mach appearance features.
Post by: John S on January 29, 2006, 06:58:18 AM
What about keyboard or touch screen operation?

We really need to address getting rid of the mouse in the shop.
Mach4 is aimed at commercial users which is where the money is. Commercial users will not accept a mouse in a production enviroment.

John S.
Title: Re: Changes to Mach appearance features.
Post by: ynneb on January 29, 2006, 07:15:32 AM
Good suggestion John, Some time ago I came up with this virtual MPG idea ( Touch screen activated).
The speed that your finger touches each virtual plate generates a pulse.
Someone suggeted glueing a ring to the screen as a finger guide. I like that idea
 The slider I posted B4 could also be used via touch screen.
http://machsupport.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=183.0;id=99
Title: Re: Changes to Mach appearance features.
Post by: ynneb on February 03, 2006, 12:23:40 AM
Art tells me he is working on a new screen designer from the ground up.
I think this will be good since its should allow for many new functions to be implemented in the future, and it should assist with greater design control.
I can hardly wait to see the results. :)
Title: Re: Changes to Mach appearance features.
Post by: zealous on May 22, 2006, 03:17:53 AM
Very cool!!,
Benny could you post these topic's on the Screen forum, I keep missing out on all this information! I mostly look at the screen forum and rarely come to the General topic's.
Can't wait to see your screens that incorporate these new functions ;D
Title: Re: Changes to Mach appearance features.
Post by: ynneb on May 22, 2006, 03:37:00 AM
Quote
Benny could you post these topic's on the Screen forum
Sorry this was a very old post made b4 I created the screen designer section.
I will move this post to there.

You realize that most of this stuff is just flash emulations in order to show a concept to encourage Art to make the changes.
Although with the up and coming charge Art has proposed, I think we stand a good chance of making and entire Flash screen.
This means all sorts of good things, the ability to bring in and out control frames etc. This will enable screen desings that are not mutli paged but one page and you can bring in and out only the components that you need. I truelly think been able to do this will solve a host of user issues.
Title: Re: Changes to Mach appearance features.
Post by: coolfox on May 19, 2008, 06:55:41 PM
Hi,
(http://uk.farnell.com/productimages/farnell/standard/1546571-40.jpg)

Follow the idea of touch screen MPG I have found this interesting piece of hardware looks like MPG and 6 buttons could be usefull?


This is link   http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?sku=1546576 and datasheet  http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/111454.pdf cost £6.24 !!! :o