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Third party software and hardware support forums. => Galil => Topic started by: TOTALLYRC on May 11, 2010, 02:50:44 AM
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I am considering using a DMC-2030 to drive a lathe without a tool changer.
3 axis will be fine since all I need is 2 motion and 1 spindle.
What else will I need to make this work? Breakout boards? Cables?
I have 2 anlog input drives and a VFD.
I am just unsure what other Galil stuff I will need.
Mike
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Hi Guys,
Did I ask a bad question? ???
Let me try a different tack.
1.The 2030 is usb but according to the sticky it will work, correct?
2. Since I only need 2 axis and a spindle, the 3 axes are enough, correct?
According to the Galil website there should be enough basic I/O to get me started for limits and such. The plugin can handle this I think. If I need more I/O I can use a modbus device or a pokeys or even the Galil ethernet I/O.
Does anyone know what the voltage of the I/O coming out of the dmc-2030 is? I am using 24v I/O on everything else that I have and would like to do so on the lathe as well.
TIA
Mike
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If you do not make up your own interface then you will need a 100 pin cable and a ICM-2900, like most Galil, the Input is 5v or 24v opto isolated, the outputs are 5v TTL, the ICM-2900-OPTO will convert to 24vdc isolated output.
There is also an output option that will interface to Grayhill or Opto G4PB24 style I/O boards.
If you want a handwheel, then you could look at using an Aux encoder input.
Nosmo.
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Hi Nosomoking,
All that sounds good,
So I would look for a ICM-2900-OPTO to get the 24v volt I/O that I want.
You mentioned making my own interface, do you know what that would entail?
Mike
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I seem to have answered my own question.
The I/O from the Galil controller is 5v TTL and should work with anything that works with TTL levels.
Mike
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Please be careful.
I have used the USB version to drive a 3 axis system, but I was not doing anything very creative with it. The plugin for Galil doesn't have any real world testing with threading yet as my lathe isn't completed. If you are doing basic turning, you may be OK though.
Kenny
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Hi Kenny,
It seems that you are planning to do more work on plugin as time allows and I would be willing to do the testing as needed.
The lathe is about a month away from being done but that is subject to change.
I would also assume that I need a spindle encoder to do threading.
I have the spindle hooked up with a vfd at this time.
I will be looking to thread in the future. I could always thread on the manual lathe if need be.
Let me know if I need to know anything else.
Would I be better off with a different controller to thread on the lathe?
Mike
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Mike,
My attempts so far use the ECAM table of Galil to do the threading, so it should work on your controller. My lathe is about a month away from running too. There will need to be lots of testing done as there are several different ways needed depending on which Galil control you have. Please get back to me when your lathe is running and I will get you a threading plugin to test.
Thanks,
Kenny
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Mike,
My attempts so far use the ECAM table of Galil to do the threading, so it should work on your controller. My lathe is about a month away from running too. There will need to be lots of testing done as there are several different ways needed depending on which Galil control you have. Please get back to me when your lathe is running and I will get you a threading plugin to test.
Thanks,
Kenny
Sweet.
Mike
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Hi Kenny,
Would it be possible to use the 2030 on a mill and run the spindle via modbus or something?
I realize that it would limit you to a 3 axis machine but would it be possible.
Just a side note there are a bunch of the 2030 usb controllers on Ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120586455175&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
I have no part in the sale but will most likely be getting one soon to go on the lathe.
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Mike,
As luck would have it, we are going to set up a 2040 on a router and see how well it works out. I have also seen the controllers on EBAY and appreciate the value, if we can get them working satisfactorily. It should take about a week to get them running and tested. I'll get back to you then.
Cheers,
Kenny
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This is awesome news!... I just bought a DMC-2030 on the hopes that moving to an industial quality control system will be an improvement. Thanks and I'm staying tuned in.
btw - If the 2030 works for me I'll be moving up to the 4040 right away.
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Hi
Mike,
As luck would have it, we are going to set up a 2040 on a router and see how well it works out. I have also seen the controllers on EBAY and appreciate the value, if we can get them working satisfactorily. It should take about a week to get them running and tested. I'll get back to you then.
Cheers,
Kenny
Hi Kenny,
Any update with the USB Galil controller?
Mike
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I have had reports from 3 different people using these so far. I can't tell you that there will be no troubles, but none have been reported to me so far. The original auction has run out, but I have been told that there are still more controls available from them.
Good luck, and let me know about any problems that you may have. I am still working on the single point threading for the plugin, so don't plan on using that very soon, but I'll get it eventually.
Regards,
Kenny
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I just bought one those Ebay Galil DMC-2030's and am trying to get Windows (both XP and 7) and Mach3 to recognize it. At present Windows Device Manager shows (see attached pic):
under "Universal Serial Bus Contollers"...
-- "Generic USB Hub"
under "Other Devices"...
-- ("!") "NET2888 USB Interface Controller"
I've installed the v7 drivers (I think) by running dmcdriverdll02.exe and dmcsmartterm02.exe and also Galil.m3p but the result in Mach3 is "Galil Card not connected!!"
I've also toggled the USB switch on the unit and have done the MRST jumper and rear panel switch, but still no luck. Any help is much appreciated!
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Smurph bought one of these and got it running right away. Proceedure is as follows:
download and install Smartterm. Reboot computer system. Use Smartterm to Register the controller in the Galil registry. Then connect to the controller using Smartterm and test it using some Galil Commands, Finally you need to connect to it in the plugin by selecting the correct controller on the first screen of the plugin config. You should download and follow the PDF for the plugin to avoid difficulties.
That should get you going.
Kenny
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Just a sanity check on Smarterm; Connect using Smarterm via USB or RS-232?
On USB I only get USB chip recognition ("NET2888 USB Interface Controller") and not "Galil Motion..." like I would've expected. I haven't tried to connect via RS-232 yet.
Thanks!!
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Definitely use the USB!! The serial is way too slow for this use.
Do you see the USB control under Smartterm? You should and select it and connect to it.
Kenny
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No luck, even following your instructions. The device is unrecognized in Windows... when devices show up this way they're posted to Device Manger's "Other devices" which in a way is isolation. From Smarterm all I get is this error message and no available conrollers to ad...
It looks like it's toast. Thanks for trying!
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Haik,
I don't believe the drivers are properly installed. The only way windows recognizes a device is if a driver is installed or there is at least a modicum of an INF file to give it information. It looks like Windows recognizes the 2 port USB hub that is in the controller. So it's either the driver is not there or the USB control has been disabled. Look at DIP switch #10. It should be in the off position.
Steve