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Help ! "Radial Cut with Zdepth" toolpath from mastercam makes Skip steps ??
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Help ! "Radial Cut with Zdepth" toolpath from mastercam makes Skip steps ??
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January 04, 2011, 12:00:50 AM »
I have this problem when cutting sphere using radial cut import from Mastercam toolpath.
no matter how slow the feedrate I choose, it always create loose steps.
is this a compatibility issue or my router setting is not right ?
I use very slow feedrate but still dosn;t solve the loosing steps problem.
anyone experience this ?
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Re: Help ! "Radial Cut with Zdepth" toolpath from mastercam makes Skip steps ??
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January 04, 2011, 02:25:42 AM »
Is your Z axis a lot slower than X and Y?
Try running in Exact Stop mode (G61) and see if it still happens.
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Re: Help ! "Radial Cut with Zdepth" toolpath from mastercam makes Skip steps ??
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January 04, 2011, 02:40:48 AM »
Z might be slower, it's because the ballscrew Z lead is like 1 inch, but X and Y is about 1/8 inch.
now how to set exact stop mode on x y and z ?
I'll try tonight.
I try to set the Step pulse and Dir pulse to 15us, I tought it solved, but it not.
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January 04, 2011, 02:49:50 AM »
I think I remember Ray Livingstone having an issue with helical paths when he was using the knee on his mill for the Z axis. The knee was a lot slower than the X and Y and that seems to be the problem if I am remembering correctly. I think he was fine if he worked in Exact Stop for that part of the code but I may be recalling incorrectly.
To set to Exact Stop just insert a G61 in the code just before the problem part of the code and then a G64 after the problem code to put it back to constant velocity if required.
Sherline mode may help if you were seeing improvements with the wider pulse but Sherline can only work at 25KHz kernel
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Re: Help ! "Radial Cut with Zdepth" toolpath from mastercam makes Skip steps ??
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January 04, 2011, 02:52:08 AM »
Just reading again and you said radial paths, is that just X and Y moving and Z stationary until Z moves down with X and Y stationary? If yes then what I described above is not likely to be your problem but maybe the sherline will help.
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Re: Help ! "Radial Cut with Zdepth" toolpath from mastercam makes Skip steps ??
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January 04, 2011, 03:47:04 AM »
here is the picture of what I'm cutting.
it's radial with Z depth.
I use to use G64/constant stop before, it give me the same result, so I try this smooth const. Vel.
now I realize, this might help you to solve problem.
when the mach3 read gcode lines, it stop for split second before reading to the next line, it's not smooth reading, that's the moment "loosing step" ... I think.
now how the mach reads "stop" momentary ? does my computer too slow ? or need bigger buffer ? CPU ?
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January 04, 2011, 04:29:21 AM »
With such a large lead on the Z axis screw, it may be an acceleration issue on Z. Try lowering the acceleration on the Z axis.
Mike
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January 04, 2011, 05:27:29 AM »
From your descruipyion of the stop at the end of each line of code that sounds like you are using Exact Stop (G61) already.
Do you have backlash comp enabled, if you do switch it off and see if the problem is solved.
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January 04, 2011, 05:49:14 AM »
I did try lowering the Z axis acceleration, still the same problem
is this because of the Z ? something got to do with Z that cause this loose steps ?
I use Backlash Comp enable already.
now I'm thinking that my PC is not catching up reading the Mastercam gcode lines.
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Please disable the backlash and see if that cures your problem, if it does then you may need to tune the backlash settings better when you re-enable them.
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