Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
May 27, 2012, 09:39:48 AM

Login with username, password and session length
Search:     Advanced search
* Home Help Search Calendar Links Login Register
+  Machsupport Forum
|-+  Mach Discussion
| |-+  General Mach Discussion
| | |-+  controller board with encoder feedback?
Pages: 1 2 »   Go Down
Print
Author Topic: controller board with encoder feedback?  (Read 1336 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
happytriger2000
Active Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 21


View Profile
« on: November 22, 2010, 09:46:59 AM »

Hi,
    I woul'd like to know if Kflop board is the only board that support encoder feed back or there's other board that does that too?
I'm hooking up 2 Heidenhain LS 486 Linear scale to my machine, open attachment for pdf file.

* ls4x6_prod.pdf (721.03 KB - downloaded 95 times.)
Logged
Hood
Active Member

Online Online

Posts: 17,362


Carnoustie, Scotland


View Profile
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2010, 09:54:12 AM »

Will the Kflop actually accept the sine wave signal these scales give out? Normally you would need to use square wave output scales but as I know nothing of the Kflop it may well accept them.
Hood
Logged
ASC
Active Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 64



View Profile WWW
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2010, 01:21:44 PM »

The Kflop only accepts single ended encoders, that is to say, only encoders with 2 signal wires, channels A and B.  There might be a way to trick it into seeing differential signals but I have yet to figure that one out.
Logged

Mr. Creosote
happytriger2000
Active Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 21


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2010, 03:28:01 AM »

hi guys,
           The Heidenhain Linear scale came with a box, APE-454, please open attachment for APE-371, output is incremental TTL...

* 593_248-21.pdf (130.7 KB - downloaded 45 times.)
Logged
Hood
Active Member

Online Online

Posts: 17,362


Carnoustie, Scotland


View Profile
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2010, 03:36:28 AM »

Ok  that should work.
 I am not sure what you are asking in your original question as I dont know whether you are planning to use these as motor feedback or whether you are trying to use these in addition to motor encoders to get double closed loop.
Hood
Logged
happytriger2000
Active Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 21


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2010, 03:47:15 AM »

Hi Hood,
            I want to build a cnc lathe, and how accurate can I get with Kflop + Heidenhan Linear scale?
What is a double close loop, and what is it for?

Freddy
Logged
Hood
Active Member

Online Online

Posts: 17,362


Carnoustie, Scotland


View Profile
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2010, 05:19:52 AM »

Will you be using servo motors? If yes then will these have encoders on them for motor positioning? If yes to that then I would presume you wish to add the scales to the table to give table feedback in addition to motor feedback (double closed loop). If No (motors dont have encoders) then you will be using the table scales to control motor position, this can work if everything is very tight and backlash free (not easy) If things are loose to even a small amount you may well have motor tuning issues.

So If you can explain exactly what you are attempting to use the scales to do it will help get you a better answer, ie
what type of motors(servo or stepper)
If servo do they have encoders for motor position
Hood
Logged
happytriger2000
Active Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 21


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2010, 08:43:23 AM »

Hood,
         Thanks for the explanation.
Double closed loop is the answer.
My intention is to add the scales to the table to give table feedback in addition to motor feedback.
I will be using 1 x 3.5KW Mitsubishi AC servo + Driver to drive the lathe spindle, then the rest 2 axis will be using Yaskawa AC servo.
Controller board = Kflop, was going to use SmoothStepper, but not sure whether it support feedback.
2 Heidenhain Linear scale.
Cast iron lathe bed, Lathe spindle head.
will show some picture later.
Logged
Hood
Active Member

Online Online

Posts: 17,362


Carnoustie, Scotland


View Profile
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2010, 09:26:22 AM »

Your servo drives (if digital) will handle closing the loop to the motors but whether the Kflop can also close a second loop I dont know. I dont think it can and as far as I know no other motion controller that works with Mach can, possibly the Galil but not sure.

Hood
Logged
happytriger2000
Active Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 21


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2010, 09:32:28 AM »

what about this: http://dynomotion.com/Help/ClosedLoopStep/ClosedLoopStepper.htm
If Mach doesn't work, how about EMC2?

Logged
Pages: 1 2 »   Go Up
Print
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.16 | SMF © 2011, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!